that's a fallacy. >> glen, i'm over time, but i think this is an important question if you can answer. you gamed out different possibilities as to why mueller doesn't just subpoena the president. you say maybe the president moved from being a subject to a target in the investigation. explain that. >> so the department of justice has a policy that we don't subpoena targets of an investigation. why is that? because a grand jury subpoena is a court order directing the person to come in, appear and testify truthfully before the grand jury. well a target by definition has a right against self-incrimination because we're looking to indict them. that's why we don't subpoena a target just like you can't call a defendant to the stand at trial, because he has a fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. i think the more time as, the more likely it is that the people that bob mueller has not subpoenaed have ripened into targets of the investigation that would go for the path for