chance to question him. one final note i would make, anderson, is there you had paul manafort at the defendants table. about ten feet away was rick gates facing 90 degrees to him. rick gates did not make contact with paul manafort. but paul manafort sitting there with his arms crossed did not let his gaze leave the face of rick gates as he was making these claims. he was not happy. he was very stressed. you could sense some anger in his eyes as he was watching rick gates give this testimony against him. >> wow. and more from gates tomorrow. jim sciutto, thanks very much. i want to bring in our legal team, former federal prosecutor jennifer rodgers and another former federal prosecutor, cnn analyst renato mariotti renato, you said rick gates was the most important gates in the manafort trial by far. there was an accountant in the past days. how damaging was his testimony today saying he lied at the direction of mr. man forkts and he al because the defense was going to