working class areas, and that's where trump has brought new voters to the republican party. ron brownstein characterized it this way, after flipping the bird to franklin county, revealing a message for the trump era gop. the party is consciously trading suburbs for small towns. it's saying what you really mean. we don't consider those voters who we are anymore. but if you just do demographics, that's where they live. the republican party can't win in the cities, the urban areas. their only hope of being competitive in a competitive statewide race, looking forward, how can you be competitive if you can't win in the cities and can't win in the suburbs? >> you saw with president trump in '16, he built coalitions that weren't relying on urban areas in states like pennsylvania, for example, where philadelphia and pittsburgh often dominate. he built a winning coalition there. so i think he has shown some ways to do that, but what's not