payments. but they didn't come out of campaign. in fact, my first question when i heard about it was did they come out of the campaign because that could be a little dooiszy. they didn't come out of the c campaign. if you look at president obama he had a massive campaign violation but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot different. >> here we don't just listen. we test. first off, the only thing that trump is right about is that there was a violation involving the obama campaign, a big one. you got to remember, every conspiracy theory, like every lie, they're fed by a kernel of truth. obama didn't do anything personally. his campaign, ok, obama for america, they did plenty.