stories out of the press. so michael cohen was there for him for that. >> as we know. good point. let me read something else. this is from a "vanity fair" article talking about their relationship, et cetera. let me quote this. cohen became executive vice president of the trump organization and special counsel to trump, setting up shop in ivanka's old office, making him one of the highest-ranking employees without a shared last name. and then in a fund-raiser for trump's 2020 reelection, this is a fund-raiser held in june of last year, the president said, quote, michael's a great lawyer, loyal, a wonderful person, talented and loves being on television. i mean, a completely different story from the president now. >> right. once -- even if you remember when the fbi raid of cohen's hotel room, apartment -- >> yes. >> trump was out there -- >> he was in a cabinet meeting talking about it. >> he said it was an attack on america, that was trump's quote because he could not believe the