and so we kept track of the stories like john through our eco vert communications system, tapping on the -- covert communications system, tapping on the wall, and keeping up with the day-to-day activities of what was happening in the camp. john's story is not only unique, but he was one courageous individual. he served his country well. i didn't get to meet john until just before we were released, and i tell the story that when the vietnamese removed the barriers between the cells in hanoi hilton and we were able to roam around and we could see other p.o.w.s from other cells, there was a day when i was looking across the courtyard and i saw this individual who was greeting everybody he saw. he was shaking hands and slapping themp on the back and talking a away and very animated. i looked at this fellow, and i