old forbes article on you. this is the quote. mccain had long been struck by foss's technicality. max is the loveliest of young men, and if you asked central casting to send you revenge of the nerds they would cent send you mack. this was john mccain. >> yeah, i -- well my mom loved that quote. i'm probably turning red right now hearing it again. >> what was he like? >> he was an amazing person. and he was fun to be around. and you know, it was like being around a rock star. and you would walk through the airport with limb and people would turn and point. and you know -- you know, there's a thousand other politicians in the world but no one had that rock star status in that fun and people loved to be around john mccain. and he loved people in return. you know, i think he fed off,