we'll try and bring her to the audience and see what this win means to her. gentlemen, thank you. >> thanks, chris. >> van jones and david urban. all right. so, look, when it comes to this woodward book, it is relevant this isn't the first time we've heard about this kind of chaos in the trump white house. it just is. why? because when things happen more than once, when you hear it a lot, it raises the credibility of it. of course you always have the standard of proof, but this new book "fear" has the most detailed evidence with some of the most well placed sources that we've seen to date. so we're going to do some cross-checking with a man who was witness to the chaos firsthand. anthony scaramucci was in the white house. he's still in close contact with people, and he speaks his mind, next.