donor's trust rather than the true party in interest. so we don't know how much anonymous money flowed through them. but i would contend that this is a pretty strong group of right wing conservative procorporate funders. and presuming that to be true, should that give you or anyone in this process pause that groups like this may have had such a significant role in selecting you to be in this seat today? >> senator, mr. mcgahn was the one who contacted me. i interviewed with the president. i know the president was -- i'm the president's nominee. he was directly involved in making that decision. i know he consulted widely, very