frankly in the a democracy, one most of the basic things we do is we talk about human dignity and those are all ways of saying we talk so that we don't have violence as a way to figure out how to use the levers of government power. so if we're not talking together about who we are as a people, we're going to lose the republic. and a lot of our kids wonder if there's anything you can trust in the future. >> jeff flake said that you made a bargain with the devil. flake says it wasn't worth it, you are arguing that it has been worth it? >> i'm arguing that the election of 2016 was a garbage fire. we shouldn't be having elections