there's a lot of passion, be upset, whatever you want to call it, but you see it on so many different levels for so many players. and even recently, roger federer challenged an umpire. and that happened in cincinnati. and he got an apology out of the umpire. if you go back a few years, there's jimmy conners, john mcenroe, there was certainly name calling there as well. so to serena's point, is there a double standard? she actually saw a penalty, a hefty one, in points, in games and in financial fine. >> well, i don't think so. she may have felt that at the time, certainly i'm a coach who is one of the top american girls, and cocoa has been fine. and more have lost points in grand slams before. it's not something to do about men or girls, but just by rules, the umpiring is very hard, as i said, he was within his right to do that. and you know, serena felt that