started on day one, but this is just outrageous. >> well, i think it's very interesting from purely the point of view of tactics, you have sarah sanders -- you showed the clip -- going out there, attacking bob woodward, saying it's fiction. saying they've denied, therefore it must not be true. i thought it was unintentionally revealing last week when sarah sanders said, well, i haven't read a lot of bob woodward books. bob woodward has given eight successive presidents the woodward treatment. you know, i can tell you from having worked with bob at "the washington post," you know, he's one of the most methodical, least ideological, most thorough reporters i've ever seen in my life. in one of his interviews, he said, you know, i did nine interviews with one of these sources. there were 500 pages of transcripts with one of these sources. and he has tape recordings of these officials. and, you know, the white house hasn't even begun to make any kind of a specific rebuttal of