and ivanka, right? we know that ivanka is the favorite here. but the question is i wonder if donald trump jr. -- because he's a hit on the campaign trail with the maga folks, whatever, if his stock is rising with his father. >> i think it is. he's also replacing michael cohen in a way. cohen -- >> he's the fixer? >> he's the fixer. he's the guy who's willing to be really tough, and he understands what i think a lot of people who serve in the administration do not understand, and that is that there is no moral core. there aren't a set of values. there isn't a set of values. there is only what pleases donald trump, the president. and really your job is to figure that out every day. and if it's saying "a" today and "b" tomorrow and "c" the next day, that's what you're supposed to do. and he was born to this. trump tower is a house of lies, and he was raised in that house of lies. so he's familiar. >> yes, but let's not forget, though, okay, because one of the big reasons that this whole