9/11, the unibomber, timothy mcvay, serial killers, we trust capable men and women of the fbi to solve, and yet for some reason lindsey graham, chuck -- the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, donald trump and others, mitch mcconnell, do not want to trust the fbi with getting to the bottom of these allegations. >> right. although you know, look, to be fair to the process, chuck grassley the chairman has made that point. that's the name you were looking for there. they are not in the business of proving or disproving these types of allegations or even really assessing the credibility. but what they could do and what i've been arguing about on the show, without any regard for who is telling the truth or not -- frankly, i don't know how i could assess it, i don't know how the senators can -- would be talk to everybody. use their field offices. being able to canvas people that maybe the senate can't get as easily and create a record,