>> first, chris, i'd like to stipulate that i also like beer, and i drank a lot of it when i was in the united states army. at the same time, i watched this hearing today, and dr. ford really got me, i thought she was authentic, i thought she was courageous i thought her education came through uniquely, and her answers to her questions. >> you believe her? >> just like i did -- i got to tell you, just like you said at the top of the show, i believe that something happened to her, and i was really worried at the end of that, that we would lose our supreme court nominee. then i watched justice kavanaugh, and the way he really showed some spine, really in my mind really let the audience and the senators know he was offended by what he -- he used to call it advise and consent. he called it search and destroy. i happen to agree with all those