and this partisanship question. can he be neutral. and both of these, credibility and temperament are weighted almost equally. there was an interesting comment that jeff flake made at the atlantic festival. he said the interaction with members was sharp and pearce and that concerns me. we can't have this on the court. we simply cannot. >> then he immediately fudged in the his classic manner as soon as he got off stage about well, i wasn't talking about judge kavanaugh. >> so that doesn't mean he will vote no but it shows what these senators want. >> and if there was evidence brett kavanaugh lied to the committee, there would be the end of the road for his nomination. the question is what does jeff flake believe constitutes a lie versus misleading the committee. >> i think orrin hatch made a