this one hurts. because i love when people reach into their heart and even into their pocket if they can, and help somebody in need. these people put shame on all of that. >> yep, they did. it's like monopoly, you get the card, go to jail, do not pass go. >> i think it should be paid more so. >> go fund me's going to pay them. >> but they should be punished more so. i always feel like, you know, when you find out about like price gouging during a hurricane or storm or people taking advantage of charity benefit or trying to take advantage of people who are sick or in need, i think those crimes should be punished more even in the same category of whatever larceny or fraud it is. >> because they're taking advantage of people's weakness and they're such good-hearted people out there. and to play on that. there are people who are actually -- most of the people on go fund me need the money. they're on there for a reason. many people need -- people raise