amounts of evidence they knew he was not coming forth on that they have and they still need. so this is not helpful to the furthering of this investigation either. >> john dean, what do you think about the theory david gergen advanced, this, you know, is hoping to get a pardon down the road if it's protecting the president? >> that's very potential. i think he sort of waited for that up until the time he flipped, and he obviously has ability to communicate probably through his wife and others to send signals that he can only go so far. the prosecutors would probably monitor him very closely, so we don't know how this will go. david also mentioned we're going to learn more. we are in the sentencing document that's going to be filed very shortly. >> anne, would it be appropriate for manafort's attorneys or