no legal consequences, there will be political consequences for this kind of conduct. >> errol lewis, joey jackson, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. nine months after being fired by the president, former secretary of state rex tillerson gets candid about his former boss. >> he acts on his instincts, in some respects that looks like impulsiveness. but it's not as intent -- not his intent to act on impulse. i think he really is trying to act on his instincts. it was challenging for me coming from the disciplined, highly processed oriented exxonmobil corporation to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot of things but rather just kind of says, look, this is what i believe. >> that did not go over well with president trump.