was he had a foil. he had hillary clinton to run against, a deeply unpopular liberal politician. president trump going up nancy pelosi, nancy pelosi spurred on by her base to show bravado, and every one of her liberal friends saying, wow, she really stuck it to him, that's great. the more she wants to fight with donald trump and the more he can fight with her, the more he's going to get re-elected in 2020. she's going to become his foil, and she's actually less popular nationally than hillary clinton was. >> the difference was that hillary clinton wanted to be nice. she wanted to play the grandmother. nancy pelosi doesn't mind being alexis carrington colby. >> she can barely get elected in her own conference because they know what a liability she is, and she's basically bullying them to send her into the speakership again. >> how do you say that after what happened in november? >> please, democrats, elect nancy pelosi speaker. please, please. >> hold on, bakari. how do you say that after what she accomplished back in november? >> great question. even after that, they know that