wave of what we have. the niche programming. >> freaks and geeks really sympathized with the losers. it had great empathy for the characters. >> freaks and geeks breaks my heart every time i think about it. >> i'm sorry. did i crush your twinkies? >> it lasted 18 episodes and the perfect 18 episodes, but nbc hated it so much. >> i have a big one brewing. >> they thought it was a show by losers about losers for losers. they hated it. they killed it. >> at the end of the 90s, the jig is starting to be up for the jet works.