branches of government. we have our responsibility. we appropriate the funds. the president is responsible to follow the laws. and the appropriations we pass. >> bottom line, are you willing to give up anything in order to see an end to this shutdown? >> i absolutely want to see an end to this shutdown. i'm absolutely willing to sit down and talk at any time about border security and what we can do. but i am puzzled as to why the president is holding the federal work force, so many agencies that have nothing to do with border security hostage towards his wall. it's difficult to work with this president, but, yes, i'm prepared to work with him. i'm prepared to sit down and try to figure out how we can solve this problem. but the president's been a moving target when it comes to trying to reach agreements. and he has to recognize that the merits of building a physical wall barrier is just not practical. >> senator ben cardin, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, we have more breaking news. a federal judge has extended the