if you talk to sanctions experts who work with the office of foreign asset control within the treasury which is the agency that handles the sanctions, they will say this is a very complicated deal and does inflict some harm. he is significantly worse off than before the sanctions. they admit he is better off having the sanctions lifted against his compan even as he himself remains under sanction. interesting this is why it has atracked so much attention. he remains a peripheral figure because of his work with paul manafort. >> that is exactly right. you are right that in this document that basically it offers up what is laid out in the document offers up two scenarios of what happened. either the treasury knew that they were letting him off easy or they -- since your reporting came out, are you getting a