were not to or from him. does that do anything to answering the fundamental question which is did he know about it. >> we still don't know. donald trump has denied. donald trump junior has denied his father knew about it before and after. they've said that pretty clearly. but that's all we're really going off of, their denials. the question is did he have any other conversations around the meeting, before, or after. that we just don't know yet. we probably have to wait for the mueller report to find that out ultimately. those conversations certainly still of interest for house democrats as they investigate this going forward and we'll see what the mueller team finds out as well. >> manu, thank you. i want to go to gerry connolly. congressman, what's your reaction to this reporting? there's been a lot of focus on those blocked calls and who they were to, whether they were to the president. we have now learned they were not. >> well, you know, an