again it's up to whitaker to see how far he's willing to put this line in the he sand, but he's clearly willing to open the door to at least some conversations. >> it has appeared a happen hazard application of i'm not going to go there when it comes to the testimony. let's see what lapse when they come back. let me bring in dana bash. manu brought up this moment. it crystallizes how unfriendly relations are and how hostile it was right off the bat, dana, when during -- i want to play you the moment, but to set it up, the chairman of the committee asking questions of the acting attorney general, and the acting attorney general decides to be timekeeper in the middle of this questions. let's play this. >> in your capacity as acting attorney general, have you ever been asked to approve any request or action to be taken by the special counsel?