yes. nancy pelosi famously said not one dollar for a barrier and quote, unquote wall. >> no, she said for the wall. congressman, in fairness, let's be honest. she said not one dollar for the wall. >> let's be honest -- >> that's where they're making that distinction. >> she didn't say not a dollar for the barrier and that didn't roll off the tongue as nicely as for the wall. >> that's how childish this is. a wall is not a fence. it's a barrier and it became a political fight and the bottom line is this, what we should always be looking for is the compromise position of recognizing, and we're proud democrats and proud republicans, but at the end of the day if you do believe in border security and if you do believe in securing american citizens' lives this is what we have to do, we have to compromise for the greater good. >> i'm curious what you think about the new milestone that the national debt has hit. it's now topping out at $22