parenthetically of a saudi crown prince who led the right for women to drive, for example, who has really pushed this public image of being a reformer, of being a progressive. while this is happening to women at the same time. >> right. and that's kind of one of the crown prince had portrayed himself as a modernizing force, has won kudos in the united states and europe and elsewhere for doing things like pushing the right of women to drive. at the same time there is a crack down going on on women activist activists. and some of this is just now emerging also because their family members are courageous enough to speak out. so we increasingly are seeing that this is all of a piece this