>> so initially, in the first few seconds of hearing it, i was stuck. i am hearing him talk a lot about, you know, one, how his life trajectory deals with how we need to adapt and maneuver into how we can be more successful by taking these series of steps. so when he says it, when he spoke about the loan and basically just taking care of it, i was just like, what? i think he's joking. >> it didn't sink in initially? >> that's exactly how it felt. no, he's joking. then i'm registering it again. he's like, this is my class, 2019. i'm like, oh, yeah, okay, this is it. so it made me feel good because i just thought about my mother. i'm one of nine kids. my dad passed away when i was 7 years old. so it was just my mother raising us. and out of the nine kids, six -- no, five are in college. i'm one of the five. and my littlest brother jeremiah will be attending college on -- well, next year technically.