>> most of the people who were threaten would being fired, just resigned. just handed in their resignations. they were not allowed to have legal rptdation, foss their accusers. they just went kwutly. >> and people were asked, informants, right? if you know of someone -- if your name is given to authorities, what do they do with that information, do you know? >> well, they follow it up with the simplest of rumors. they would say this co worker has odd-shaped lips. this man has a funny walk and the security officers would investigate. they would go and interview neighbors and former employers. >> i want to play another clip from the lavender scare. >> i was the first person to