great to have you on this post-july 4th morning. so today, it sounds as though senator kamala harris' position and former v.p. biden's position on bussing is not as different as we thought it was on the debate stage. is senator harris, does she believe in federal mandates for bussing or not? >> she said she believed that in 1969 and nine 70 when she was -- 1970 when she was bussed to school that federally bussing was amemanned mori. most -- was mandatory. most agree. when she was in indianola, in iowa, is that now we're in 2019, not 1969 thank goodness, so we need new tools now. i will say vice president biden seems to stand by his opposition to bussing from back in 1969.