report. it doesn't seem like the best use of anyone's time but the white house is going to play these kinds of games. it's hard to see what options congress has in terms of responding. >> yeah, the white house is citing executive privilege. at the same time robert mueller later next week is going to be testifying before the judiciary committee and the intelligence committee in the house. the attorney general bill barr, he said today that the democrats are simply aiming for a public spectacle. what do you expect from those hearings? >> first of all, i think attorney general barr has a lot of chutzpah saying this is just public spectacle after he came out and publicly shaded the mueller report and wasn't forthcoming with congress about special counsel mueller's objections to the way it was portrayed. that being said, i think a lot of this is going to depend really, wolf, on mueller himself. it's going to be in public. congress will ask their questions. if mueller has that sort of flat affect he did in his last public appearance and just sort of reads what he already put out in the mueller report, then i don't know what will come of it. i agree with susan that congress