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it's just -- nothing's bothering you. >> i just don't think i've been able to process everything that's happened. >> one possible reason for jeff fenton's flat affect? he was taking anxiety medication. another? he had just lost his former fiancée and was confused by all the questions because he was not involved in her murder. still, police kept looking at those close to theresa as they search for answers. >> coming up -- >> there was no way in hell i would ever -- >> a new girlfriend makes an entrance and a dramatic exit -- >> how many people have you seen get up in the middle of a polygraph and get out of the -- >> room -- >> what will be unsolved case quite make of this? when "dateline" continues -- ne" continues --
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report. it doesn't seem like the best use of anyone's time but the white house is going to play these kinds of games. it's hard to see what options congress has in terms of responding. >> yeah, the white house is citing executive privilege. at the same time robert mueller later next week is going to be testifying before the judiciary committee and the intelligence committee in the house. the attorney general bill barr, he said today that the democrats are simply aiming for a public spectacle. what do you expect from those hearings? >> first of all, i think attorney general barr has a lot of chutzpah saying this is just public spectacle after he came out and publicly shaded the mueller report and wasn't forthcoming with congress about special counsel mueller's objections to the way it was portrayed. that being said, i think a lot of this is going to depend really, wolf, on mueller himself. it's going to be in public. congress will ask their questions. if mueller has that sort of flat affect he did in his last public appearance and just sort of reads what he already put out in the mueller report, then i don't know what will come of it. i agree with susan that congress
her parents were murdered. he could not have said it more than he did. nothing suggested that she was connected to this guy, jake thomas patterson, nor did they find any social media suggesting there was a connection. i mean, if you think it through, this guy came in, kicked the door down, did two precision kills, had a get away car ready, took her, she didn't even have a pair of shoes with her, which tells me this was not something she was planning. she had a flat affect as well. we know that's very common. i've seen it many, many times. children that have been molested or mistreated. not only that, the way she appeared. the fact that she was so thin, that her hair was matted. she was filthy wearing shoes too big for her. i have no doubt from what we know right now this had nothing to do with a plan on jayme closs' part. >> what happened to him now? put on your legal hat. >> what happens now?
girl. >> one of the things that struck me. you look at these cases and there are children who don't survive very long. i don't remember the exact statistics. >> it's horrible. >> you probably do, about the -- >> stranger upon stranger? typically stranger on stranger kidnapping, not parental, not your aunt, your uncle. stranger on stranger, it's around 75% of these children don't make it past three hours. >> yeah. you have a guy who is clearly violent? he went in and killed her parents. >> horrible. horrible. when i think of them saying this child had a flat affect. do you know what that means? she's numb. she's numb. and the first thing she said to this woman, she said i was kidnapped. a man shot both my parents. you know what? i have two children that are 11, my twins. she's not much older than them.
preoccupation and consternation and fear, so much of it founded in paranoia, and perhaps the purposeful anxiety that the president seeks to stoke and instill. i think all that would melt. >> yes. >> away. you just have to be here, see it, believe it. >> ron klain, the president talked about people having walls around their private homes. there's beto o'rourke in el paso with someone whose home is literally on the border and he doesn't need a wall. >> no, look, i kind of wonder where the real trump was tonight because i think that was, like, the anamatronic robot from disney's hall of presidents delivering in a robotic way canned lines that he's delivered over and over again for the past three years. just the same old lies, the same old rhetoric over and over and over again. delivered in an incredible boring and flat affect, it no political or legislative impact whatsoever.
even better, all of this preoccupation and consternation and fear, so much of it founded in paranoia, and perhaps the purposeful anxiety that the president seeks to stoke and instill. i think all that would melt. >> yes. >> away. you just have to be here, see it, believe it. >> ron klain, the president talked about people having walls around their private homes. there's beto o'rourke in el paso with someone whose home is literally on the border and he doesn't need a wall. >> no, look, i kind of wonder where the real trump was tonight because i think that was, like, the anamatronic robot from disney's hall of presidents delivering in a robotic way canned lines that he's delivered over and over again for the past three years. just the same old lies, the same old rhetoric over and over and over again. delivered in an incredible boring and flat affect, it no political or legislative impact whatsoever.
and fear, so much of it founded in paranoia, and perhaps the purposeful anxiety that the president seeks to stoke and instill. i think all that would melt. >> yes. >> away. you just have to be here, see it, believe it. >> ron klain, the president talked about people having walls around their private homes. there's beto o'rourke in el paso with someone whose home is literally on the border and he doesn't need a wall. >> no, look, i kind of wonder where the real trump was tonight because i think that was, like, the anamatronic robot from disney's hall of presidents delivering in a robotic way canned lines that he's delivered over and over again for the past three years. just the same old lies, the same old rhetoric over and over and over again. delivered in an incredible boring and flat affect, it no political or legislative impact whatsoever. you know, i think that jon meacham a second ago said you
white people killed daily at the hands of the lower races. i feel pity that i had to do with i did. i had to give up my life because of a situation that should never have existed. besides that, what do you make of this? >> again in the consuccess of the behavior i have seen, the observations of him in court and the flat affect and firing his attorneys, and the delusion i uncovered, four hours of interrogation i watched. he is delusional. the classic age at the on set of mental illness. of course he did not shed a tear. would you shed a tear if you shot a terrorist that was about to set off a bomb here in new york city. i wouldn't.
jared laugh ner had his reasons, his planning, same scenario. but the difference is, he got treatment. he was found incompetent to stand trial and he had remorse. >> he said he wrote a journal for six weeks. let's talk about it. he said, i do not regret what i did. i'm not sorry. i have not shed a tear for the innocent people i killed. i do feel sorry for the innocent white children forced to live in this sick country. i feel sorry for the innocent white people killed daily at the hands of the lower races. i have shed a tear of self-pity for myself, that i had to do what i did in the first place. i feel pity that i had to give up my life because of a situation that should never have existed. so besides that being completely odious, what do you make of this? >> again, in the context of all the behavior i've seen, the observations of him in court, the flat affect that we see in people with skriz frenia, his firing his attorneys, fighting the mental health defense, and