this, they had an enormous amount of not only witness statements but corroborating evidence such as phone records that showed that there were communications between these girls and his schedulers or even in some cases him, himself had called some of these girls. >> what was the understanding at the time that made the leniency that happened the right move? >> well, i think it was in their mind, i mean, his lawyers, you know, he had kenneth starr and others, he had an all-star team, and i think they were trying to wear down the prosecutors. they had one agreement that they were going to go with and then it would get torn up and start over. and the whole process just kept going over and over and over again. to some degree, i think they wore the prosecutors down. >> as we both know, they don't drive the process. the other side does and you have the former police chief say i've