and we can talk about that. i'm happy to talk about it at that time. >> thank you, senator. >> thank you. >> she's back with us. the senator says she won't be a middle class tax cut with her healthcare proposal. is she saying wall street will pay for it? >> middle class tax hike is what she said she will and not prepared to take that step. what she is saying is she won't solely lean on wall street. it is one of the about a dozen options that would bring in some revenue to help pay for medicare for all. what she's taken off the table is a middle class tax hike. that's where she's not going to go. >> biden the former vice president responding tonight to senator harris' comments that medicare for all is the next step in improving obamacare. >> i don't know anybody who thinks that. you're either medicare for all. which obamacare is gone.