for hundreds of years. we haven't had this until recently and we need to figure out why. >> that to me is a pretty clear indication of where the white house stands on this. mick mulvaney just said this isn't a gun issue. >> this is a prime example of trying to fix the problem without actually fixing the problem. so first of all, i totally agree with julian castro in saying that the only person responsible for the shooting is the shooter. however, it is congress's job to make sure that we keep guns outfit of the hands of people who lack the ability to make a rational decision. obviously the shooters lack the ability to make a rational decision. so something has to be done with loopholes. i am a pro second amendment. i believe in an individual to carry arms, but i do believe there are things we can do that keep these guns out of the hands of people. that is closing some of the