talk about nervous and neurotic? he knows people hate his guts. there's a lot of unevenness and uncertainty related to the trade deal and stuff he's doing. and he's devicive. if you want to say you didn't get out early enough. i accept that. >> i have to ask you a question. >> hold me accountable. >> that's a very fair point. no matter if you said, if you did it a year ago. people say why did it take so long. right. there's no winning. >> i genuinely when i joined that campaign and a preexisting relationship. it wasn't great or anything. i was wasn't trying to over exaggerate it. we knew each other. he invited me for breakfast. he said he was running. i didn't believe him. i ended up with jeb and scott walker: before him. when i joined the campaign i