so there are some good reasons why the u.s. might want green land. however, if these natural resources become exploitable in greenland, certainly the folks we're would want full autonomy and independence rather than becoming part of the united states. one of the things that president trump would probably have to do if he were to acquire greenland is finally acknowledge that climate change is really because greenland with its giant ice sheet is certainly in the front line in the battle against climate change. >> thank you so much. so the possibility of trump's interest in buying greenland was first reported by the "wall street journal." joining me now is one of the reporters who broke this store. thank you so much for being here vivian. >> hi, kate. >> how serious are you told that president trump really is about this? >> so there's always a caveat. i've been covering this administration since president trump took office and he's the