our citizens to go in? there is so much business to be done in canada. there are family members for folks in canada. there are people who want to go to canada, again. and if they're vaccinated, chris, we are sending the wrong message. and the president's sending the wrong message. this is my argument when he wasn't getting the masks off, earlier, for vaccinated people including himself. it sends a powerful message to people that, maybe, they don't work. and that's contributing, i think, to some of the reluctance and some of the concern about getting vaccinated. these vaccines are 90 to 95% effective. if they are, then we need to open the border between united states and canada for vaccinated people. and those people present their vaccination card, they should be able to go to canada and i think canada shouldn't be asking us for our help. >> see. listen. i understand the rest of it. but the problem is how are they going to know who is vaccinated? you just said they showed the card. that's not the answer. the answer is a vaccine passport