all you need is the majority, 12 of the 23 grand jurors, and stand dard of proof is way down here as opposed to beyond a reasonable doubt. >> so you have a lower bar to begin with, they're extremely persuadable by the prosecutor to begin with, and you only need a majority, which is why the saying goes, you could indict a ham sandwich. why would you call a special grand jury? >> if you want a grand jury that's going to have a lot of information to process and absorb that would take longer than a week or a day. >> what are we looking at? >> a lot of financial charges. the main gist appears to be on how the trump organization valued its assets. the allegation or belief is at some point it would deflate the value of the assets. at other times they would allegedly inflate the value of