whether they may have lied about their assets when applying for loans or paying their taxes. now, when it comes to the potential crime of fraud they're going to need documents, they're going to need witnesses. and we know the former president he doesn't leave much of a paper trail. he doesn't e-mail, doesn't text. so witnesses are going to be key, and all eyes are on the trump organization's long time cfo allen weisselberg. he's exactly the kind of person who could if he wanted to cooperate give investigators the kind of insights they need. he's also currently facing his own tax investigation, which could apply pressure on him and really incentivize him to cooperate. so all eyes on him right now. >> so, paula, talk to me about the timing of this. how quickly could this move? >> we know this grand jury has been in panel for about six months. that can be extended. we also know the manhattan district attorney's term lasts a little bit longer thanimate. right now based on the information we have we're looking about until the end of