he doesn't do cnn. he kind of lives in this insular world where all of the myths and conspiracies are being perpetuated. basically, every component of the republican party from activists to donors to staffers to politicians, as you men mentioned, have come to terms with this for their own reasons. they are trying to boost trump up. although, quite a few of them privately are worried about what happens if he runs for president again. >> do they really believe in him? are these kind of -- they are sucking off the whole thing or are they believers? >> it's more the former than the latter. if you look at some of the staffers i talked to down there, unlike previous administrations, they can't go get high-powered jobs at google or uber or amazon, especially not after the january 6 insurrection. a lot of them have fallen back on the trump credential and