information is kept secret for a reason. and people who disclose it essentially are deciding that regardless of whether the information should be kept secret or not, they have their own agenda. they know better than the people who are charged with deciding whether information should be disclosed and they're going to go ahead with their own agenda. that's -- that's unlawful whether it's done by edward snowden or done by eric swalwell. >> but the problem was, it wasn't done. they found no proof. if they kept looking and expanding, they kept adding and invading, and they were told by staffers, some of whom are at high levels and still there, we're going to hear from them, mike, who told barr and others -- >> i'm sure we will. >> -- there is nothing here. we are uncomfortable continuing this. and they were told to continue. and that barr eventually had to go tell -- >> that's not what the -- >> yes, sir. that's what the reporting says. >> that's not what the reporting says, no -- >> it is what the reporting