condition. because this is, like, a cancer. you start to scrape at it. you start to open it up. and you find more. every time we open up one of these buildings, we find that it's greater than what the original report is. therefore, by definition, it would help if we were to take a step back and do infrared or sonar. and check behind, what is really the status, the condition, of the steel? and the actual condition of the concrete, itself? we can drill it, and see what the selenity is. and give everybody a better understanding, in today's world, what is the condition of these buildings? >> so tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people who live in these buildings right -- right now, in 30-year-old, 40-year-old buildings along the ocean. how worried should they be? because i am getting calls. a lot of them are pretty worried. >> look. i think that there is no need for drama.