as much damage as we possibly could and spread the message of hate white supremacy everywhere we knew it would be the most upsetting and did you ever have the order or did you ever have the. going to actually kill people i know and so i and much like today even though i've been disengaged for 25 years it was still very much a leaderless. movement so there weren't sort of there was there wasn't a hierarchy of orders coming down that very much even though i lived with a bunch of other white supremacists it very much it was sort of an organic choice of things to do and often the violence that we undertook whether as fights or violent harassment of people who were targeted flyer. synagogues or places of