going to pay for itself. you need revenue to pay for this. one of the big ways of getting that is through a value added or national sales tax. people should know is the way the europeans pay for their social safety net perhaps. a lot of democrats believe we should be more like europe. if you want those social safety net programs you need the taxes to pay for it and you need a value added tax. >> greta: having this discussion now april and midterms are coming -- >> timing couldn't be worse. people are pulling their hair out doing income taxes now. >> greta: that's why i think paul volcker must have been going rogue. unless it is being discussed and he was being honest letting the american people know is coming. >> and people should remember that paul volcker was tapped by president obama to head a task force to reform the tax system. it is not as if he knows nothing about this.
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