seven months ago our debt was 13 trillion. my question is, when do you stop blaming bush? >> first, i want to commend the president for picking bill daley, i don't think he could have picked -- >> sean: forget that, i didn't ask you that. >> i know, but secretary daley is a smart man and the right man for the right time. what you are talking about the different deficit numbers, the hole that president bush dug was a deep one. because of that -- i know you like to breathe hard when you hear this, these are the facts. because of that president obama did have to do some things to i guess the old adage we had to spend some to get out of that hole he created. make sure small businesses still has a seat at the take. frankly, it is working. keep in mind there's a lot of debt on the other side of the republicans did a lot of spending in the bush years.