rush limbaugh and other spokespeople on the mesh right. that went nowhere. it didn't affect rush limbaugh and so on. my sense about this, we have become a reflex response on the american left. it's hard to tell how much of it is sincere as a bitter reaction and how much is a political tactic. i would say it has failed so far and likely to fail this time. >> bill: there is a difference between '95 and 12011 that the 24-hour cycle news heightens it all. evening news would never have run my talking points memo. i couldn't have gotten that on the air. if i had a talk radio program i could have gotten a segment to the american public. everybody is going to know what i said and i am angry.