what amnesty was supposed to do during the reagan administration. it had the opposite effect, it informed the next cans on the other side, if you can come and stay under the radar for three or fours years and you will be a citizen. i think first of all, the border has to be tightened up. if we can secure the border in north korea, nothing gets through, we can certainly secure the border. i don't think the democrats or republicans want that. >> bill: not up to this point. >> there are a lot of things done. my parents were migrant farm workers. my kids and your kids aren't going to do it. >> bill: we have to have guest worker programs to fill those jobs. >> what is the situation. agriculture is still the biggest industry in california. that is what i do up in fresno. >> bill: you are an american success story. you came from a humble beginning