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general petraeus told me they had the drone strikes that have taken out a lot of their mid-level management. al-qaeda 1.0 lacks like it's on his death trost but then there is al-qaeda 2.0. that is the franchise in somalia, yemen, other parts of the world and they are trying to jockey for the legacy to be the heirs of bin laden. then al-qaeda 3.0 which is what we worry about now. >> gregg: americans are feeling pretty good. it's been ten years, no attacks. are you that confident? >> we have gotten pretty darn good at a couple of things. we have traced down the money. we stopped money flows. without the money, they can't have the organization and the timeline to do a big september 11 attack. we have gotten the nypd state-of-the-art. we also i think amazingly got all of america is ready to see something and say something. to me, though, the real worry is will they go in to the next phase and do something like a dirty bomb.

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