point? not who ended up there. rudy giuliani had 28% of the voters behind him then. fred thompson had 23% and john mccain who ended up becoming -- being the nominee, 15% and this is fascinating now because a lot of discussion is should certain people get out of the race? well, if you look at those stats, the answer is no. unless they run out of money potentially. maybe they should stick it out. you never know who is going to end up on top. >> story in "new york times" today that we'll ask michelle bachmann about that she's running out of money. >> who do you think won or lost? rhonda from north carolina says herman cain and newt gingrich really helped themselves in the debate last night. cain's answers are clean and crisp and newt demonstrates a breadth of knowledge unequalled by anybody on the stage. i'm with gretchen. political pundits have written everybody off but perry and romney. >> the e-mail machine is called a computer.